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My husband, upon touching ground in New Zealand, declared himself an instant Kiwi by immediately denouncing any form of affection for Australia and adopting the ‘Pavlova Stance’. He said it’s a rite of passage into Kiwihood! He can’t be blamed – his South African father is notorious for saying that ...

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My husband, upon touching ground in New Zealand, declared himself an instant Kiwi by immediately denouncing any form of affection for Australia and adopting the ‘Pavlova Stance’. He said it’s a rite of passage into Kiwihood! He can’t be blamed – his South African father is notorious for saying that ...

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Posted by danni on April 15, 2016, 6:07 p.m. in Lighthearted

One of Crowded House’s most well known songs is called “Better Be Home Soon” – but where, actually, is “home” to the band?

This is just one of the topics Australians and Kiwis argue over in what’s often termed a “sibling rivalry” between the two countries. It’s a question many of us ‘down under’ have heatedly discussed (and that includes New Zealand, by the way. Given its geographical location, you might say NZ is even further "under" than Australia but let's not argue!) - Are Crowded House a Kiwi band, or are they Australian?

This is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the banter between these two brother nations. It doesn’t help the ego of either to learn that many people around the world admit to not even knowing that Australia and New Zealand are individual countries to begin with! Who could forget the Olympics faux pas when our medal count was combined for the country "New Ausland"?

I must admit I enjoy the rivalry – when two countries have the time and inclination to focus on things like who really invented the Pavlova, it means that they’re clearly not desperately trying to avoid being hijacked in South Africa or blackening of their children’s lungs from the filthy, polluted air in parts of Asia.

My husband, upon touching ground in New Zealand, declared himself an instant Kiwi by immediately denouncing any form of affection for Australia and adopting the ‘Pavlova Stance’. He said it’s a rite of passage into Kiwihood! He can’t be blamed – his South African father is notorious for saying that he supports the Springboks “and any team playing against Australia” so the country was never given a fair chance in his eyes.

I can only speak from my own perspective, but frankly, I love Australians. (I can hear the wailing from my New Zealand office mates and the cheering from my colleagues in Melbourne…) Maybe you need to be a real Kiwi to really feel it, but I love their slightly dark humour, their often brash approach, their ‘salt-of-the-earth’ realness and as a South African, I especially love their accents. (And yes, fellow Saffas, it is possible to tell the accents apart…eventually!) 

As for the actual country of Australia – the contrast of beauty and danger in the wilderness, the great expanse of the Outback, the harshness of the land and environment – all of that is character building! I often joke that I’ll send my kids to school in the Outback so that they develop strong spines and the ability to defend themselves. It’s not that this is impossible in New Zealand, but it is a more delicate comparison! (On the North Island, anyway. My husband always reminds me that the South Island exists and that the environment there is harsh in many ways, too.)

I put together this list of some of the things both the Aussies & Kiwis lay claim to, just for fun:

Crowded House
Crowded House were a rock band formed in Melbourne, Australia, in 1985. The founding members were New Zealander Neil Finn (vocalist, guitarist, primary songwriter) and Australians Paul Hester (drums) and Nick Seymour (bass). So if you're going by numbers, Australia should probably take this one...(sorry, Paul) - although, granted, Neil's Kiwi brother Tim joined the band later which balanced it out a little. 

Crowded House - Kiwi or Aussie?

Phar Lap
Champion horse Phar Lap, the thoroughbred foaled in New Zealand but trained and raced in Australia where he forged an incredible career. Phar Lap was best known for being much faster than other horses and has since been a disputed possession for both nations.

Phar Lap

The Pavlova
In 2007, insurance company NZI ran a humorous series of television advertisements in New Zealand highlighting what are locally considered to be historic New Zealand icons being adopted elsewhere, including the pavlova playing on its status as a common feature of the friendly trans-Tasman rivalry. NZI's parent company is Australian owned!

The Pavlova...who's is it?

Russell Crowe
Well, I'm not sure why either country wants to claim him, but he was in fact born in New Zealand. What's really funny is after Mel Gibson (who was born in Australia) lost the plot and became the anti-semetic lunatic he is, Australia instantly disowned him and called him an American!

Russell Crowe

To be honest, while researching the finer points of this post I found very few Australians ranting about New Zealanders, and many New Zealanders expressing their thoughts about Australians – make of that what you will! – perhaps there’s an underlying sense of living in Australia’s shadow, and Kiwis do not like that.

New Zealand has a very strong sense of “little New Zealand nationalism” whereby we take national pride in being small and punching above our weight. We revel in being the plucky country that surprises everyone. The two countries do however share language and cultural traits as well as similar political, legal and economic institutions. The Anzac spirit forged at Gallipoli in 1915 has endured through theatres of war in Europe, Africa and Southeast Asia and the way I see it is, like brothers we are rivals. But in war & times of crisis, we are united.

Just don’t mention the rugby...

- Danielle Balsaras, Marketing Coordinator, Auckland Office

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April 15, 2016, 11:35 p.m. by Paul Goodwill

Mel Gibson was born in New York, not Australia, so he is, in fact, American, who possible also has Australian citizenship.

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April 20, 2016, 3:18 p.m. by Danielle Balsaras
Yes! Although it depends on what he's been doing - if Braveheart circa late 90s, he's known as Australia's own! Apparently lived in Australia since he was 12 years old. Thanks for the comment, Paul :)
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